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Bird Deterrents
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Chlorine is a real fast corrosion agent for aluminum. Maybe not as fast as bird droppings but,  I’d be careful with that one. 

Zeke


Erik Israelson of Fleet 72 also reports that a rope above the boom works for him.

 

“I too have tied a line 6 inches above my boom - from the mast to backstay….. works perfectly.”

 

Vic Roberts

 

Thanks James

 

I have not done this myself, but I know others that have used chlorine.  They took a half bottle of chlorine and drilled a tiny hole in it so it would let an odor out but  not evaporate too fast. They  hung it in the rig by the spreaders.  It worked to deter cormorants that would land on the spreaders.  your mileage may vary.  and  not good for if it were to spill into the water.

Thanks Bud!

 

I bought the Orbit version last year to keep raccoons from digging up my yard looking for grubs last spring.  It worked! You can also daisy chain more than one together.  

Bryce



On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 11:39 AM Bud Brown <sailorbud1085@gmail.com> wrote:
So...

There once was an egret that decided to make the bow of Lorelei its roosting place...

And every time I wanted to go sailing, I had to deal with a gray and white pool of bird poop, which also carried the most amazing aroma.

I thought about monofilament line from piling to piling to harangue it, but that seemed a bit cruel.

"So, what would you do if you were standing here on the finger pier when it came in for a landing?", I asked myself.

"Well, I'd get the water hose and squirt it until it flew away..."

BRAINFLASH !!!

Oh My Gosh!!! How about inventing a motion activated water sprinkler that only came on for a few seconds whenever the bird flew into range?

So, I rushed home to see if one already existed, and like has occurred many times before, there was one already on the market. I bought two... one for each piling either side of the bow, and they worked so fine that I bought three more to protect my garden and flowerbed at home.

Fantastic product. 9V Battery powered.





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Best regards,

Bud Brown

281.468.6909 cell and text

So...

There once was an egret that decided to make the bow of Lorelei its roosting place...

And every time I wanted to go sailing, I had to deal with a gray and white pool of bird poop, which also carried the most amazing aroma.

I thought about monofilament line from piling to piling to harangue it, but that seemed a bit cruel.

"So, what would you do if you were standing here on the finger pier when it came in for a landing?", I asked myself.

"Well, I'd get the water hose and squirt it until it flew away..."

BRAINFLASH !!!

Oh My Gosh!!! How about inventing a motion activated water sprinkler that only came on for a few seconds whenever the bird flew into range?

So, I rushed home to see if one already existed, and like has occurred many times before, there was one already on the market. I bought two... one for each piling either side of the bow, and they worked so fine that I bought three more to protect my garden and flowerbed at home.

Fantastic product. 9V Battery powered.





--
Best regards,

Bud Brown

281.468.6909 cell and text

Bryce,

 

Thank you for your detailed response.   Perhaps we should add this to the Library on the ECA website under a new category named Bird Deterrents.

 

Vic Roberts

 

Zeke,

 

Good point. I believe almost all the birds are geese, perhaps Canadian Geese given our location.

 

Vic

 

You forgot to say what Species of birds they are. 
Most important. 

Zeke

I went the route of netting this last year and couldn’t be happier. It does add 5-10 minutes at launch and wrap-up, but Its so nice coming back to the boat as clean as you left it. True, I would occasionally get a duck figure out they could still hop up on the boat or an occasional fly over bombing, but netting really made my boat less attractive than anything else around me. The worst offenders are the seagulls, and this has kept them away. 

I used garden netting or pond netting. (I think this is what I picked up from Ace) Its thin and cheap enough that if it gets caught on something I can just rip it free and not be bothered by a tiny tear. 

- For layout I split the boat in two (Port, Starboard) and had a net for each side.
- I  thread a dyneema line through/along the top long edge of each net that was cut to the length of the boat + some. (Samson Premium Amsteel Blue Rope 1/8”) I used different colors for each side
- For attaching the nets, I ran from the bow stem > spin pole ring on the mast > boom tang > back stay chain plate. It's like a ridge line that sits above the cockpit cover.
- At each mounting location I used Snap Hooks or caribiner clips tied into the rope at the exact(ish) distance for each mounting location. The clips grabbed a hold in the bow stem > the spin ring > the backstay > aft chain plate
- I also used different knot methods for attaching the clips to the rope at the bow and stern so I knew where each end of the net belonged (bow or aft). Maybe some zip ties would be better for identification here. 
I let the edges of the net drape over the sides of the boat and trimmed for a reasonable fit so they would sit in the water 

For lauch and net storage before sailing
- I would start at the bow and gather the net, detaching each clip and holding in hand working my way aft. I attached the clips to each other as I went. 
- At the back of the boat I would then pull the clips/net through this two-sided trashcan/sleeve (  boat trash can ) for storage. This made it a bit easier to toss the nets in the cabin while sailing and I could quiickly redeploy at the end of the day. 

To redeploy the nets, I would work in reverse starting aft and attach the clips to the mounting points as I went. One side at a time. Obviously, this was done after I had the cockpit cover on the boat. 


Full links:
Netting - Greenscapes 100 ft. L X 7 ft. W Garden Netting
Line - Samson Premium Amsteel Blue Rope 1/8" Multiple Colors, Multiple Lengths, Strong Dyneema Fiber 2,300lb tensile Strength, Torque Free, Low Stretch, 12 Strand, Easy to Splice (1/8" x 50', Silver)
Clips - SHONAN 1.93 Inch Carabiner Clips, 4 Pack Flag Hooks for Flagpole Rope, Stainless Steel Marine Grade for Ropes, Keychain, Dog Leash, and Hiking
Trashcans - Boat Trash Bag Can - Boat Accessories Boat Owner Gifts for Men Boating Must Haves Reusable Mesh Boat Garbage Container(Black,YKK Short Zipper)



Alternatively, maybe some of these mooring fields need a honeypot for the bird. Maybe a floating dock just for them in the mooring field would be a more attractive place for them to hand out instead of the boats. 


Bryce



Tie a rope from the mast to the backstay. Always worked for me!

Bird droppings are a major headache for Ensign owners in Fleet 72 (Saratoga Lake, NY). They are especially bad late in the season.


We have tried a number of bird deterrents, from nets to fake owls. The nets work but are time consuming to deploy. The owls not so much.


I see a number of devices listed as boat friendly bird deterrents, such as solar powered rotating metal arms to noise makers, but many of these are too large for an Ensign with a mooring cover over the cockpit.


I assume other Ensign owners have faced the same problem, and I hope we can learn from your experiences. What has worked for you and what has not?


Vic Roberts, Webmaster

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