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Zeke Durica
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7/31/2018 9:45 PM
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Doug
Vic is right go to the Ensign Class site become a member and many of your questions can be answered I’m sure from previous discussions.
Zeke.
Doug,
Welcome to Ensign sailing.
There is a lot of information on the ECA website that you may find useful. For example, if you look under Ensign Class Association/Ensign Specifications you will find a drawing of a fully rigged Ensign with some data you may need. Also, if you go to Library/Technical you will find seven PDFs that have more detailed information. The document labeled Mast Assembly Blueprint should provide the information you need on the mast. The quality of the blueprints is very low, but if you expend the drawing on your computer, you will be able to read all the dimensions and see where everything fits.
If you look through the various photos we have on the site you will see many examples of rigged boats, which should help. If you need photos of anything specific, please let us know.
Regards,
Vic Roberts, Webmaster
#2032, Journey
From: mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> On Behalf Of Ensign Sailing Forum
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:25 PM
To: vic@victorroberts.com
Subject: [Ensign Sailing] my Ensign to do list <<$202029190498$>>
Hello, I just joined the forum, and thought I’d jump in with both feet. I recently purchased a 1965 Ensign (hull no. unkown), with the understanding that the discounted price meant there would be work involved in getting it on the water. So, since purchasing the boat in New Orleans, I have started a list of things I need to do in order to get it sailing in Birmingham, AL. Of course, you don’t start a list like this until you get at least the first step complete. And I did- In the wee hours of a night in July, I rented a BAT (Big A$$ Truck) and trailered the boat from Mandeville, LA to the Birmingham Sailing Club on Lake Logan Martin near Pell City, AL. The boat has not touched water in 7 years, according to the previous owner, but the hull looks fantastic... aside from a few “simple” fixes. In that context, here is my to-do list. Now, understand I post this in order to solicit free advice.... make no mistake about it- I am new to Ensigns and have no idea what I’m doing with them. I arrived at it probably the same way many do; An ensign looks dang sexy on a trailer and even more beautiful under full sail.
1: Fix the rub rail. Attached is a picture which will show one that it will not be as straightforward as the famous video leads one to believe. The shear clamp is flat-out missing in some sections on the Stbd side. Not sure what to do here, I have no experience working with fiberglass (although I am willing to learn!). Some input would be helpful here!
2: Secure all of the wood. The benches are not really attached to the boat- they look good, but not attached. I anticipate drilling new holes in the fiberglass.
3: Purchase and afix all rigging to the mast. I wish I had a diagram of an ensign mast and boom to show me how it is supposed to look. I think the mast is in good shape (that is, if I actually have an Ensign mast), but the boom is trashed (if I actually have an Ensign Boom).
4: Step the mast. No idea how to set the mast plate.... but I do know that I need to buy a mast base plate- that’s the first step, right? I read the rigging guide on the internet, but really have no idea how to do it properly.
5: check for leaks!
5a. name the boat- now accepting recommendations
6: Set sail?
I think that is it, with a million substeps, that is. I’ll take whatever advice i can get!!! And if anyone is open to letting me ride along on their boat to see the boat and rigging in action, or driving theough al to lay eyes on my wonderful problem, I’m all for it!
Thanks, Doug
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Vic Roberts
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7/31/2018 7:52 AM
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Doug, Right after I sent this message I remembered that there are a large number of very useful project-related Ensign photos on Yahoo, in a Yahoo group called Ensign Sailors that we used before the new ECA website was set up. This link should get you there: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EnsignSailors/photos/photostream I also need to copy these to this website. Vic Roberts From: mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> On Behalf Of Ensign Sailing Forum
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 7:41 AM
To: vic@victorroberts.com
Subject: re: [Ensign Sailing] my Ensign to do list <<$202053265477$>> Doug, Welcome to Ensign sailing. There is a lot of information on the ECA website that you may find useful. For example, if you look under Ensign Class Association/Ensign Specifications you will find a drawing of a fully rigged Ensign with some data you may need. Also, if you go to Library/Technical you will find seven PDFs that have more detailed information. The document labeled Mast Assembly Blueprint should provide the information you need on the mast. The quality of the blueprints is very low, but if you expend the drawing on your computer, you will be able to read all the dimensions and see where everything fits. If you look through the various photos we have on the site you will see many examples of rigged boats, which should help. If you need photos of anything specific, please let us know. Regards, Vic Roberts, Webmaster #2032, Journey  Hello, I just joined the forum, and thought I’d jump in with both feet. I recently purchased a 1965 Ensign (hull no. unkown), with the understanding that the discounted price meant there would be work involved in getting it on the water. So, since purchasing the boat in New Orleans, I have started a list of things I need to do in order to get it sailing in Birmingham, AL. Of course, you don’t start a list like this until you get at least the first step complete. And I did- In the wee hours of a night in July, I rented a BAT (Big A$$ Truck) and trailered the boat from Mandeville, LA to the Birmingham Sailing Club on Lake Logan Martin near Pell City, AL. The boat has not touched water in 7 years, according to the previous owner, but the hull looks fantastic... aside from a few “simple” fixes. In that context, here is my to-do list. Now, understand I post this in order to solicit free advice.... make no mistake about it- I am new to Ensigns and have no idea what I’m doing with them. I arrived at it probably the same way many do; An ensign looks dang sexy on a trailer and even more beautiful under full sail.
1: Fix the rub rail. Attached is a picture which will show one that it will not be as straightforward as the famous video leads one to believe. The shear clamp is flat-out missing in some sections on the Stbd side. Not sure what to do here, I have no experience working with fiberglass (although I am willing to learn!). Some input would be helpful here!
2: Secure all of the wood. The benches are not really attached to the boat- they look good, but not attached. I anticipate drilling new holes in the fiberglass.
3: Purchase and afix all rigging to the mast. I wish I had a diagram of an ensign mast and boom to show me how it is supposed to look. I think the mast is in good shape (that is, if I actually have an Ensign mast), but the boom is trashed (if I actually have an Ensign Boom).
4: Step the mast. No idea how to set the mast plate.... but I do know that I need to buy a mast base plate- that’s the first step, right? I read the rigging guide on the internet, but really have no idea how to do it properly.
5: check for leaks!
5a. name the boat- now accepting recommendations
6: Set sail?
I think that is it, with a million substeps, that is. I’ll take whatever advice i can get!!! And if anyone is open to letting me ride along on their boat to see the boat and rigging in action, or driving theough al to lay eyes on my wonderful problem, I’m all for it!
Thanks, Doug
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Vic Roberts
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7/31/2018 7:32 AM
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Doug, Welcome to Ensign sailing. There is a lot of information on the ECA website that you may find useful. For example, if you look under Ensign Class Association/Ensign Specifications you will find a drawing of a fully rigged Ensign with some data you may need. Also, if you go to Library/Technical you will find seven PDFs that have more detailed information. The document labeled Mast Assembly Blueprint should provide the information you need on the mast. The quality of the blueprints is very low, but if you expend the drawing on your computer, you will be able to read all the dimensions and see where everything fits. If you look through the various photos we have on the site you will see many examples of rigged boats, which should help. If you need photos of anything specific, please let us know. Regards, Vic Roberts, Webmaster #2032, Journey From: mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> On Behalf Of Ensign Sailing Forum
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:25 PM
To: vic@victorroberts.com
Subject: [Ensign Sailing] my Ensign to do list <<$202029190498$>> Hello, I just joined the forum, and thought I’d jump in with both feet. I recently purchased a 1965 Ensign (hull no. unkown), with the understanding that the discounted price meant there would be work involved in getting it on the water. So, since purchasing the boat in New Orleans, I have started a list of things I need to do in order to get it sailing in Birmingham, AL. Of course, you don’t start a list like this until you get at least the first step complete. And I did- In the wee hours of a night in July, I rented a BAT (Big A$$ Truck) and trailered the boat from Mandeville, LA to the Birmingham Sailing Club on Lake Logan Martin near Pell City, AL. The boat has not touched water in 7 years, according to the previous owner, but the hull looks fantastic... aside from a few “simple” fixes. In that context, here is my to-do list. Now, understand I post this in order to solicit free advice.... make no mistake about it- I am new to Ensigns and have no idea what I’m doing with them. I arrived at it probably the same way many do; An ensign looks dang sexy on a trailer and even more beautiful under full sail.
1: Fix the rub rail. Attached is a picture which will show one that it will not be as straightforward as the famous video leads one to believe. The shear clamp is flat-out missing in some sections on the Stbd side. Not sure what to do here, I have no experience working with fiberglass (although I am willing to learn!). Some input would be helpful here!
2: Secure all of the wood. The benches are not really attached to the boat- they look good, but not attached. I anticipate drilling new holes in the fiberglass.
3: Purchase and afix all rigging to the mast. I wish I had a diagram of an ensign mast and boom to show me how it is supposed to look. I think the mast is in good shape (that is, if I actually have an Ensign mast), but the boom is trashed (if I actually have an Ensign Boom).
4: Step the mast. No idea how to set the mast plate.... but I do know that I need to buy a mast base plate- that’s the first step, right? I read the rigging guide on the internet, but really have no idea how to do it properly.
5: check for leaks!
5a. name the boat- now accepting recommendations
6: Set sail?
I think that is it, with a million substeps, that is. I’ll take whatever advice i can get!!! And if anyone is open to letting me ride along on their boat to see the boat and rigging in action, or driving theough al to lay eyes on my wonderful problem, I’m all for it!
Thanks, Doug
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Fran Trapp
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7/30/2018 11:52 PM
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Welcome aboard, Don! It seems like yesterday that I got a call from the marina towing my newly purchased, sight unseen, Ensign from her mooring to tell me that the boat was almost underwater and did I want them to bail her out or forget it. They wanted $50 to bail. I said bail!. With that she was recovered in December from an Icy Chesapeake mooring to be loaded on a trailer. From there she traveled to South Carolina where she received a full overhaul. How time flies, it is time to do it again!
The first thing I will tell you that will save you lots of $$$ and get it done right the first time is: ENSIGN SPARS. Chad has everything you need and great advise. He has your rub rail and he can tell you how to fix the fiberglass. Chad actually builds new Ensigns so he knows Everything! His prices are reasonable and his parts are the correct parts!
It is really important to refit the boat like an Ensign. Boats with parts that don't fit or are not the most efficient rigging just have to be done again to be competitive. Additionally, you want to make sure you do not violate the class rules. You can save yourself the trouble and money of doing twice by using Ensign Spars parts in the first place.
You also need to join the class. Kay Snider can probably help you find research your hull number. It may become important to you in the future.
I am happy to share photos of my Babe's refit and her rigging. Just email me and I will send them to you. We recently added a new mast and a new boom and we Love them!
The Ensign Nationals will be starting August 13 in Tom's River, NJ. . After that, my crew and I,as I am sure many more, would welcome you on board. My Ensign sails out of Lake Murray Sailing Club, Chapin, South Carolina. LMSC also will host the Ensign Mid Winter Regatta next March. Make your plans to come to South Carolina and let's go sailing.
Congratulations on your new purchase.
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DOUGLAS WATSON
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7/30/2018 7:24 PM
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Hello, I just joined the forum, and thought I’d jump in with both feet. I recently purchased a 1965 Ensign (hull no. unkown), with the understanding that the discounted price meant there would be work involved in getting it on the water. So, since purchasing the boat in New Orleans, I have started a list of things I need to do in order to get it sailing in Birmingham, AL. Of course, you don’t start a list like this until you get at least the first step complete. And I did- In the wee hours of a night in July, I rented a BAT (Big A$$ Truck) and trailered the boat from Mandeville, LA to the Birmingham Sailing Club on Lake Logan Martin near Pell City, AL. The boat has not touched water in 7 years, according to the previous owner, but the hull looks fantastic... aside from a few “simple” fixes. In that context, here is my to-do list. Now, understand I post this in order to solicit free advice.... make no mistake about it- I am new to Ensigns and have no idea what I’m doing with them. I arrived at it probably the same way many do; An ensign looks dang sexy on a trailer and even more beautiful under full sail.
1: Fix the rub rail. Attached is a picture which will show one that it will not be as straightforward as the famous video leads one to believe. The shear clamp is flat-out missing in some sections on the Stbd side. Not sure what to do here, I have no experience working with fiberglass (although I am willing to learn!). Some input would be helpful here!
2: Secure all of the wood. The benches are not really attached to the boat- they look good, but not attached. I anticipate drilling new holes in the fiberglass.
3: Purchase and afix all rigging to the mast. I wish I had a diagram of an ensign mast and boom to show me how it is supposed to look. I think the mast is in good shape (that is, if I actually have an Ensign mast), but the boom is trashed (if I actually have an Ensign Boom).
4: Step the mast. No idea how to set the mast plate.... but I do know that I need to buy a mast base plate- that’s the first step, right? I read the rigging guide on the internet, but really have no idea how to do it properly.
5: check for leaks!
5a. name the boat- now accepting recommendations
6: Set sail?
I think that is it, with a million substeps, that is. I’ll take whatever advice i can get!!! And if anyone is open to letting me ride along on their boat to see the boat and rigging in action, or driving theough al to lay eyes on my wonderful problem, I’m all for it!
Thanks, Doug
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