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For the first test I cut the Velcro One-Wrap into four 3-foot strips. These were long enough to wrap around my main but had only about 3 inches of overlap to secure the ties. They worked, but ideally should be longer. I plan to cut four or five more that are 3 1/2 or 4 feet long. A four-foot tie will give about 15 inches of overlap, which seems about right. If these turn out to be too long for convenient use, I can cut them back.

Vic Roberts
#2032, Journey


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The captain of the Y-Flyer fleet at the Saratoga Lake Sailing Club runs an office furniture business. Last year he brought some black, double-sided Velcro straps (originally used to secure parts of furniture) to the Club and members of Ensign Fleet 72 found these made excellent sail ties. These straps have the Velcro hooks on one side of the material and the Velcro loops on the other, so they are secured just by wrapping them around something. No knots, no D-rings, no buckles. I decided to see where I could buy some.

I found that this material is called Velcro One-Wrap. It comes in widths from at least 1/2 inch to 2 inches, and in both black and white, and perhaps some other colors. Black is most common. Some other companies make similar material under other brand names. I also found normal one-sided Velcro straps at Home Depot but they use D-ring for each strap and cannot be cut shorter to make multiple ties. Staples, Office Max and U-Line have products that I think are similar to the material at Home Depot.

I purchased a 45-foot roll of 1 1/2 inch wide One-Wrap from Amazon for $21.67 plus rax.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JWU786S/ref=twister_B00OT32QYM?th=1

They had shorter rolls in black, and in white in smaller widths, but not in 1 1/2 inch and white. I bought white because I was not sure that the black was color fast, though I suspect it is, since no Fleet 72 member who received the original black ties last year has reported any color transfer. White ties are also more formal than black ties :-)

The material just arrived today and I haven't had time to see how long each tie should be. However, if I cut the material to make each tie 2.5 feet, this one roll will make 18 ties, more than enough for 3 boats if I decided to use 5 ties for my main.

Vic Roberts
#2032 - Journey
 
I did it back in the 70's in Artful Dodger and it worked beautifully for years. You can see it when your hiking out also.


Zeke

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Zeke,

Thanks.  #23 was donated to the sailing school at SLSC about two years ago, and it has a compass in the floor, just as you describe.  I had never seen that and wondered how common is was.  I'll take a look at my floor on Wednesday, and also look for flat compasses.

Regards,

Vic



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Sounds good. I hate the bungee that whips around and can hit you in the eye. I'm still a sail tie guy since every regatta they give you free ones. I used to use a compass mount below the floor boards. It was mounted on the smaller panel back by the skipper but if your new boat only has the main panel it would be a little further away but you could still use it. Hard to describe but you counter sink a compass under the floor by cutting a couple of slats about 5 inches out and leave a little window of 1/2 plexi flush so you can see to it. Flat and never in the way you can walk on it and when you want to see where your going you just look down. They might even have flat compasses now days.  If your interested in this mount I can walk you through it. Hope this helps. Zeke

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Ensign Sailing Forum <ensignsailing@ensignclass.com> wrote:



 The captain of the Y-Flyer fleet at the Saratoga Lake Sailing Club runs an office furniture business. Last year he brought some black, double-sided Velcro straps (originally used to secure parts of furniture) to the Club and members of Ensign Fleet 72 found these made excellent sail ties. These straps have the Velcro hooks on one side of the material and the Velcro loops on the other, so they are secured just by wrapping them around something. No knots, no D-rings, no buckles. I decided to see where I could buy some.

 I found that this material is called Velcro One-Wrap. It comes in widths from at least 1/2 inch to 2 inches, and in both black and white, and perhaps some other colors. Black is most common. Some other companies make similar material under other brand names.  I also found normal one-sided Velcro straps at Home Depot but they use D-ring for each strap and cannot be cut shorter to make multiple ties.  Staples, Office Max and U-Line have products that I think are similar to the material at Home Depot.

 I purchased a 45-foot roll of 1 1/2 inch wide One-Wrap from Amazon for $21.67 plus rax.

 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JWU786S/ref=twister_B00OT32QYM?th=1

 They had shorter rolls in black, and in white in smaller widths, but not in 1 1/2 inch and white. I bought white because I was not sure that the black was color fast, though I suspect it is, since no Fleet 72 member who received the original black ties last year has reported any color transfer.  White ties are also more formal than black ties :-)

 The material just arrived today and I haven't had time to see how long each tie should be. However, if I cut the material to make each tie 2.5 feet, this one roll will make 18 ties, more than enough for 3 boats if I decided to use 5 ties for my main.

 Vic Roberts
 #2032 - Journey








 
Zeke,

Thanks. #23 was donated to the sailing school at SLSC about two years ago, and it has a compass in the floor, just as you describe. I had never seen that and wondered how common is was. I'll take a look at my floor on Wednesday, and also look for flat compasses.

Regards,

Vic



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Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 9:16 PM
To: vic@victorroberts.com
Subject: re: [Ensign Sailing] Velcro Sail Ties <<$175394152094$>>




Sounds good. I hate the bungee that whips around and can hit you in the eye. I'm still a sail tie guy since every regatta they give you free ones. I used to use a compass mount below the floor boards. It was mounted on the smaller panel back by the skipper but if your new boat only has the main panel it would be a little further away but you could still use it. Hard to describe but you counter sink a compass under the floor by cutting a couple of slats about 5 inches out and leave a little window of 1/2 plexi flush so you can see to it. Flat and never in the way you can walk on it and when you want to see where your going you just look down. They might even have flat compasses now days. If your interested in this mount I can walk you through it. Hope this helps. Zeke

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Ensign Sailing Forum <ensignsailing@ensignclass.com> wrote:



The captain of the Y-Flyer fleet at the Saratoga Lake Sailing Club runs an office furniture business. Last year he brought some black, double-sided Velcro straps (originally used to secure parts of furniture) to the Club and members of Ensign Fleet 72 found these made excellent sail ties. These straps have the Velcro hooks on one side of the material and the Velcro loops on the other, so they are secured just by wrapping them around something. No knots, no D-rings, no buckles. I decided to see where I could buy some.

I found that this material is called Velcro One-Wrap. It comes in widths from at least 1/2 inch to 2 inches, and in both black and white, and perhaps some other colors. Black is most common. Some other companies make similar material under other brand names. I also found normal one-sided Velcro straps at Home Depot but they use D-ring for each strap and cannot be cut shorter to make multiple ties. Staples, Office Max and U-Line have products that I think are similar to the material at Home Depot.

I purchased a 45-foot roll of 1 1/2 inch wide One-Wrap from Amazon for $21.67 plus rax.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JWU786S/ref=twister_B00OT32QYM?th=1

They had shorter rolls in black, and in white in smaller widths, but not in 1 1/2 inch and white. I bought white because I was not sure that the black was color fast, though I suspect it is, since no Fleet 72 member who received the original black ties last year has reported any color transfer. White ties are also more formal than black ties :-)

The material just arrived today and I haven't had time to see how long each tie should be. However, if I cut the material to make each tie 2.5 feet, this one roll will make 18 ties, more than enough for 3 boats if I decided to use 5 ties for my main.

Vic Roberts
#2032 - Journey





 
Sounds good. I hate the bungee that whips around and can hit you in the eye. 
I'm still a sail tie guy since every regatta they give you free ones. 

I used to use a compass mount below the floor boards. It was mounted on the smaller panel back by the skipper but if your new boat only has the main panel it would be a little further away but you could still use it. 
Hard to describe but you counter sink a compass under the floor by cutting a couple of slats about 5 inches out and leave a little window of 1/2 plexi flush so you can see to it. Flat and never in the way you can walk on it and when you want to see where your going you just look down. They might even have flat compasses now days.  
If your interested in this mount I can walk you through it. 

Hope this helps.  

Zeke

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The captain of the Y-Flyer fleet at the Saratoga Lake Sailing Club runs an office furniture business. Last year he brought some black, double-sided Velcro straps (originally used to secure parts of furniture) to the Club and members of Ensign Fleet 72 found these made excellent sail ties. These straps have the Velcro hooks on one side of the material and the Velcro loops on the other, so they are secured just by wrapping them around something. No knots, no D-rings, no buckles. I decided to see where I could buy some.

I found that this material is called Velcro One-Wrap. It comes in widths from at least 1/2 inch to 2 inches, and in both black and white, and perhaps some other colors. Black is most common. Some other companies make similar material under other brand names.  I also found normal one-sided Velcro straps at Home Depot but they use D-ring for each strap and cannot be cut shorter to make multiple ties.  Staples, Office Max and U-Line have products that I think are similar to the material at Home Depot.

I purchased a 45-foot roll of 1 1/2 inch wide One-Wrap from Amazon for $21.67 plus rax.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JWU786S/ref=twister_B00OT32QYM?th=1

They had shorter rolls in black, and in white in smaller widths, but not in 1 1/2 inch and white. I bought white because I was not sure that the black was color fast, though I suspect it is, since no Fleet 72 member who received the original black ties last year has reported any color transfer.  White ties are also more formal than black ties :-)

The material just arrived today and I haven't had time to see how long each tie should be. However, if I cut the material to make each tie 2.5 feet, this one roll will make 18 ties, more than enough for 3 boats if I decided to use 5 ties for my main.

Vic Roberts
#2032 - Journey


 
The captain of the Y-Flyer fleet at the Saratoga Lake Sailing Club runs an office furniture business. Last year he brought some black, double-sided Velcro straps (originally used to secure parts of furniture) to the Club and members of Ensign Fleet 72 found these made excellent sail ties. These straps have the Velcro hooks on one side of the material and the Velcro loops on the other, so they are secured just by wrapping them around something. No knots, no D-rings, no buckles. I decided to see where I could buy some.

I found that this material is called Velcro One-Wrap. It comes in widths from at least 1/2 inch to 2 inches, and in both black and white, and perhaps some other colors. Black is most common. Some other companies make similar material under other brand names. I also found normal one-sided Velcro straps at Home Depot but they use D-ring for each strap and cannot be cut shorter to make multiple ties. Staples, Office Max and U-Line have products that I think are similar to the material at Home Depot.

I purchased a 45-foot roll of 1 1/2 inch wide One-Wrap from Amazon for $21.67 plus rax.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JWU786S/ref=twister_B00OT32QYM?th=1

They had shorter rolls in black, and in white in smaller widths, but not in 1 1/2 inch and white. I bought white because I was not sure that the black was color fast, though I suspect it is, since no Fleet 72 member who received the original black ties last year has reported any color transfer. White ties are also more formal than black ties :-)

The material just arrived today and I haven't had time to see how long each tie should be. However, if I cut the material to make each tie 2.5 feet, this one roll will make 18 ties, more than enough for 3 boats if I decided to use 5 ties for my main.

Vic Roberts
#2032 - Journey
 
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